diff -r 094cd25a16d9 -r 83f4aa79c130 javaquery/api/src/main/java/org/apidesign/bck2brwsr/htmlpage/Knockout.java
--- a/javaquery/api/src/main/java/org/apidesign/bck2brwsr/htmlpage/Knockout.java	Sat Apr 13 09:14:54 2013 +0200
+++ b/javaquery/api/src/main/java/org/apidesign/bck2brwsr/htmlpage/Knockout.java	Sun Apr 14 11:52:36 2013 +0200
@@ -66,12 +66,33 @@
         this.model = model == null ? this : model;
     }
     
+    public Object koData() {
+        return model;
+    }
+
+    private static final JSObject KObject;
+    static {
+        KObject = (JSObject) web().executeScript(
+            "(function(scope) {"
+            + "  var kCnt = 0; "
+            + "  scope.KObject = {};"
+            + "  scope.KObject.create= function(value) {"
+            + "    var cnt = ++kCnt;"
+            + "    var ret = {};"
+            + "    ret.toString = function() { return 'KObject' + cnt + ' value: ' + value; };"
+            + "    return ret;"
+            + "  };"
+            + "})(window); window.KObject"
+            );
+    }
+    
     public static <M> Knockout applyBindings(
         Object model, String[] propsGettersAndSetters,
         String[] methodsAndSignatures
     ) {
-        applyImpl(propsGettersAndSetters, model.getClass(), model, model, methodsAndSignatures);
-        return new Knockout(model);
+        Object bindings = KObject.call("create", model);
+        applyImpl(propsGettersAndSetters, model.getClass(), bindings, model, methodsAndSignatures);
+        return new Knockout(bindings);
     }
     public static <M> Knockout applyBindings(
         Class<M> modelClass, M model, String[] propsGettersAndSetters,
@@ -80,7 +101,7 @@
         Object bindings = next;
         next = null;
         if (bindings == null) {
-            bindings = web().executeScript("new Object()");
+            bindings = KObject.call("create", model);
         }
         applyImpl(propsGettersAndSetters, modelClass, bindings, model, methodsAndSignatures);
         applyBindings(bindings);
@@ -128,13 +149,23 @@
         + "  read: function() {"
         + "    try {"
         + "      var v = model[getter]();"
-        + "      try { v = v.koData(); } catch (ignore) {};"
+        + "      console.log(\" getter value \" + v + \" for property \" + prop);"
+        + "      try { v = v.koData(); } catch (ignore) {"
+        + "        console.log(\"Cannot convert to koData: \" + ignore);"
+        + "      };"
+        + "      console.log(\" getter ret value \" + v);"
+        + "      for (var pn in v) {"
+        + "         console.log(\"  prop: \" + pn + \" + in + \" + v + \" = \" + v[pn]);"
+        + "         if (typeof v[pn] == \"function\") console.log(\"  its function value:\" + v[pn]());"
+        + "      }"
+        + "      console.log(\" all props printed for \" + (typeof v));"
         + "      return v;"
         + "    } catch (e) {"
         + "      alert(\"Cannot call \" + getter + \" on \" + model + \" error: \" + e);"
         + "    }"
         + "  },"
-        + "  owner: bindings"
+        + "  owner: bindings,"
+        + "  deferEvaluation: true"
         + "};"
         + "if (setter != null) {"
         + "  bnd.write = function(val) {"
@@ -148,9 +179,9 @@
         try {
             KOProperty kop = new KOProperty(model, strip(getter), strip(setter));
             bnd.call("bnd", ko, bindings, kop, prop, "get", "set", primitive, array);
-            LOG.log(Level.FINE, "binding defined for {0}: {1}", new Object[]{prop, ((JSObject)bindings).getMember(prop)});
+            LOG.log(Level.INFO, "binding defined for {0}: {1}", new Object[]{prop, ((JSObject)bindings).getMember(prop)});
         } catch (Throwable ex) {
-            LOG.log(Level.FINE, "binding failed for {0} on {1}", new Object[]{prop, bindings});
+            LOG.log(Level.INFO, "binding failed for {0} on {1}", new Object[]{prop, bindings});
         }
     }